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Rental01
Rental01
#1   Posted 3 years ago
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I recently migrated to an AMD A64 3500+ because it fit into my $200 budget for all upgrades required to go there.

Now, I'm disappointed by the performance increase in most applications and games from my old AMD XP2500+ to this new proc. BF2, CS:S, HL2 - all better but not "outstanding" - as I've heard the migration usually is.

Right now I'm dual booting - Vista64 on my 250GB C: drive, and XP Pro on my 120GB D: drive. The XP install is my default OS so I can still photochop and play games and stuff.

Here's what I need to know - What's the deal with XP64?
** Can I still get it?
** Is it worth it over my XP32 install?
** I use a lot of the "pro" functions (mstsc, file sharing on our home network, etc) - can I use them on XP64?
** Is XP64 just Vista64? 'Cause I'm running it and it still sucks. I can't use my sound card which I require because of its digital out functions.

Now the information you need:
CPU: AMD A64 3500+ 939
M/B: ASROCK 939-DUAL-VSTA
RAM: (1) 1GB PC3200 CAS 2.5
GPU: ATI x850Pro 256MB AGP8x
Sound: SB Live! 5.1 Gamer / onboard something or other - no listed "digital out" (disabled)
HDD1: WD 250GB 7200RPM ATA-100 8mb cache
HDD2: Maxtor 120GB ATA-133 7200RPM 8mb cache
Power: 500W Ultra
comrade693
comrade693
#2   Posted 3 years ago
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In reply to Rental01, #1:

Well, from what I've read (mind you, I've never had first hand experience with it), XP64 isn't that great, and generally not worth it.

Vista is supposed to be much better, but because it requires signed drivers, it is a bit harder to use older hardware.
Rental01
Rental01
#3   Posted 3 years ago
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Yeah - the people over at PlanetAMD64 love it (go fig) and they have a lot of resources. I'm thinking about canning my Vista64 install because it's so hard on the hardware. I need more RAM - anyone got an add'l gig of pc3200?
Strider165
Strider165
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#4   Posted 3 years ago
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In reply to comrade693, #2:

Yeah, from the looks of things, and from what we've discussed in the CTA thread, it wouldn't appear that XP64 is worth it.
Rental01
Rental01
#5   Posted 3 years ago
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Meh - as a CTA I'll continue to push forward for testing purposes alone!

This is posted from an XP64 install. I'm still toying with it now.

I need to find other things to make this work. .NET 2.0 seems to be evading me. Grr...
Strider165
Strider165
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#6   Posted 3 years ago
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In reply to Rental01, #5:

goodluck!
Rental01
Rental01
#7   Posted 3 years ago
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It's not too shabby - once I got .NET to work everything fell into place. I ended up removing the SB Live! 5.1 Gamer.

The onboard works in Vista64 and lower - that works for me. No hardware errors, everything works.

Well, almost everything. I imported about my whole OS from the other machine - straight copy and it worked. The only thing I need to get working is my antivirus. Grr!
Strider165
Strider165
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#8   Posted 3 years ago
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In reply to Rental01, #7:

Didn't you hear? You don't need antivirus with Vista
Rental01
Rental01
#9   Posted 3 years ago
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Shutty. I'm on Xp64. I need AV. lol
wussie is online
wussie
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#10   Posted 3 years ago
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In reply to Rental01, #9:

unless you are h2freak, who magically doesn't need AV, yet spends most of his time reformatting his hard drive and resinstalling windows....
Rental01
Rental01
#11   Posted 3 years ago
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In reply to wussie, #10:

Lol. I rebooted to XP32 over night - I have AV there. I'm e-mailing my AV provider today to see what can be done.
z0dE
z0dE
#12   Posted 3 years ago
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In reply to Rental01, #11:

I don't use anti virus, i just don't download anything that isn't from a trusted source, i run PandaScans' online scanner once a month and it has yet to find anything in the past 8 months i haven't had anti virus.
h2freak
h2freak
#13   Posted 3 years ago
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In reply to wussie, #10:

I DO have AV on my computer, XP just kills itself and I reformat it to fix it.
Strider165
Strider165
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#14   Posted 3 years ago
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In reply to h2freak, #13:

Don't you reformat once a month or something? XP is not that unstable...
h2freak
h2freak
#15   Posted 3 years ago
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In reply to Strider165, #14:

About every 2-3 months. Lately I have been doing it once a month due to some problems and I didnt have the patience to deal with it so I reformatted and no more problem.
zackr
zackr
#16   Posted 3 years ago
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You'll find that XP64 is just not worth it because it will actually slow things down. You'll need twice as much RAM for any real effect.

Look here for some reasons why (2nd post): 64 bit versus 32 bit.
Rental01
Rental01
#17   Posted 3 years ago
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I rebuild about once a year - usually when I upgrade something because the hardware I'm using becomes too small for my expanding needs.

Oh, and I'm not using linux and the only viable upgrade path in my $200 range was a 64-bit chip. With new OS's being built for the 64-world and apps following we'll just have to see where it goes. In the meantime I'm ok with what I have now.

And for what it's worth, about 3 years ago the same articles were out about dual processors and all that.
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