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Locked: Spanned Volume Catastrophe [ 1 ]
iplayforfree
iplayforfree
#1   Posted 2 years ago
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I have 4 large hard drives (totaling over 1 TB) on a pci raid controller (that's working fine), and I used windows dynamic disk spanning to make them into one virtual drive. I have over 700GB of data on these drives, and recently windows stopped functioning on me for some reason.

I've reinstalled windows, and all my drivers, and disk management shows all four drives (and my separate boot drive), but labels them as "foreign". Right clicking them shows only "properties" "convert to basic disk (lose all data)" and "help". Unsurprisingly "help" was of no help, so I came here to ask...

How do I restore my spanned volume?

Thanks in advance.
Turiya
Turiya
i r CTA
#2   Posted 2 years ago
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If you didn't have an Emergency Recovery Disk (It stores things like disc arcitecture, and partition properties) then I'm pretty sure you're screwed.

Spanning disks is great for space, but when it comes to disaster recovery, you're pretty much screwed with out a backaup.
Tamari
Tamari
#3   Posted 2 years ago
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I would go with turiya on this one. but, you might be able to check things out in administrative tools and then going to computer management, and then going into disk management and playing around with it.
iplayforfree
iplayforfree
#4   Posted 2 years ago
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Windows XP Home lacks the ability to import foreign disks.

Borrowing my friends XP Pro disk again did the trick.
TXGFFreAk
TXGFFreAk
#5   Posted 2 years ago
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wait... so you had a hardware raid controller but you used the Windows dynamic raid?

They work a bit different, if you set up your raid array in your raid controller bios your data would still be there. The hardware would have presented Windows with an extremely large disk, rather than four independent disks that you built your raid out of. Course you can do more with a raid controller.

I would recommend backing your data up, building yourself a hardware raid array and dumping the windows dynamic disk bull. Unless you are using JBOD then you don't have a choice.

I personally like RAID 1+0 it requires at least 4 disks but you can store lots of data and it is redundant. It is two separate Raid 1 arrays (two identical disks) that are then striped (you could call it spanned). So you could lose one disk from both raid one arrays and you are still golden as long as you replace the disk before the other goes bad.

anyway... thats enough out of me
iplayforfree
iplayforfree
#6   Posted 2 years ago
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Thanks for the input, however, my disks aren't evenly sized, not to mention the array is 70% full, so RAID is out of the question. I guess I forgot to mention in my post the words "span" and "jbod", you guys must have assumed I was using a RAID 0 setup.

Anyway, I did learn something out of this, with windows dynamic disks, partition data for the arrays is stored on each of the disks in said array, so as long as you have all the disks present, windows can automatically rebuild the array for you without problems, even with RAID, I'll bet (provided you haven't tried to write to the disks since the failure).

Now I'm just curious as to how this all will work with vista.
Turiya
Turiya
i r CTA
#7   Posted 2 years ago
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In reply to iplayforfree, #6:

You did use the word "span", but when used with the term RAID, it's usually a synonym for Striping (RAID 0). Honestly, I've never dealt with a JBOD, it ususally doesn't come up in my line of work.
TXGFFreAk
TXGFFreAk
#8   Posted 2 years ago
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JBOD = poor mans raid. Justa Bunch Of Disks is what it stands for. I haven't used it in years cause if one disk goes bad you'll probably loose everything. Happened to me back during the Win2k days. It works great for home network file servers, but I wouldn't recommend it for anything but data you wouldn't mind loosing. I actually use a Buffalo Terastation (Raid 5) and I'm just about to swap it out for a Buffalo Terastation Pro (swappable HDDs) and probably run RAID3 (Three stripe drives one parity, is that right or is that raid 2?)
iplayforfree
iplayforfree
#9   Posted 2 years ago
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"poor mans redundant array of inexpensive disks"?

That doesn't make a lot of sense. =P

Anyway, JBOD is what you do when your disks aren't evenly sized and you don't want to lose capacity, especially if the disks aren't for any intense application, where both speed and redundancy don't really factor in.

And yes, what you described is RAID3, not RAID2. =P

edit: I know somebody is going to try to correct me and say "independent". Don't.

Post edited 2/16/07 11:10PM
wussie
wussie
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#10   Posted 2 years ago
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In reply to iplayforfree, #9:

independant
iplayforfree
iplayforfree
#11   Posted 2 years ago
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Ha! You spelled it wrong.

Get firefox 2.
wussie
wussie
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#12   Posted 2 years ago
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In reply to iplayforfree, #11:

I have firefox 2 I spelled it wrong on purpose just to fuck with you
Turiya
Turiya
i r CTA
#13   Posted 2 years ago
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I know what JBOD means.... I just haven't acutally dealt with an JBOD setup..... (sheesh, I r a CTA, ya know....)

As for the "I" in RAID.... depending on your source it can be either Inexpensive or Independent .

Here's a great source for RAID levels.
iplayforfree
iplayforfree
#14   Posted 2 years ago
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In reply to wussie, #12:

Oo, burn on me.

Somebody lock this thread. =P
wussie
wussie
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#15   Posted 2 years ago
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In reply to iplayforfree, #14:

ok, submitting for lock now
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